This months referrals are here

What does referrals mean?

Referrals are given out once a month from China (CCAA china affairs) When your paperwork is sent over to China they go through your paperwork and log in into a computer and check for updates if needed. Once you are logged in CCAA gives you a log in date ours is March 22, 2006. Everyone that has a log in date before us gets a referral before us. Once you are logged in CCAA then sends your paperwork over to a different room where they go into detail into your paperwork, they sometimes ask for more information or deny couples for certain reasons. This is called an audit. Once you have been audited they send your paperwork to the matching room to sit til it is your turn to get a referral. We got notified Feb 3, 2007 that we were audited and everything was approved. Now we sit til it is our turn for a referral.
Once it is our turn for a referral we will recieve a package that includes pictures of our child with information on background, size, appox date of birth, medical evaulations ect. We have appox 24 hours after recieving a referral to accept the child or not. If not then we go back into the waiting pool for appox. 3 months. If you have any questions about why it is taking so long please read updates on main page in posts " why is it taking so long to get Makayla"

Referral history as of 7/6/08

Thursday, September 4, 2008

Sept referrals are in

Referrals are in. CCAA (china affairs) gave out referrals through Feb 9th, 2006. A great 11 days worth. We are logged in March 22, 2006, so I am happy we are getting much closer to our date. To see the chart closer just double clink on it. We only have 41 days of log in dates before ours. WWWWOOOOOOWWWWOOOO!!!!!!!!














Sept referrals are in and I am very disappointed at how far they got. The CCAA china affairs only referred child whose log in date was from Nov 22nd 2005 to Nov 25th, 2005. That is only 4 days of referrals. At this rate it will be two more years till we get our referral. If you have any questions about referrals or why is it taking so long to get Makayla please read in posts : Why is it taking so long to get Makayla " Or " Referrals" .


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As you can tell from previous months my predictions are even worse than I expected since June 2006 when I made the predictions. So this month I am going to do another prediction chart. This chart will include what Good case scenario Mid case scenario and of course worse case scenario. Back on 2004 and part of 2005 CCAA china affairs would give out a month of referrals every month and in the last four months they have only done a total of 25 days total.

Good case scenario

June log in dates through Nov 16th 2005
Referrals for June only got to nov 07, 2005
July log in dates through Dec 3 th 2005
Referrals for June only got to Nov 14th, 2005
Aug log in dates through Dec 25th 2006
Referrals for Aug only got to Nov 21th , 2005
Sept log in dates through Jan 4th 2007
Referrals for Sept only got to Nov 25th, 2005

October log in dates through Jan 23rd 2006
Nov log in dates through Feb 24th 2006
Dec log in dates through March 10th 2006
Jan 2008log in dates through March 25th , 2006
We travel late Feb early April 2007


Bad case scenario

June log in dates through Nov 10th 2005
Worse than expected June referrals only got to Nov 7, 2005
July log in dates through Nov 23rd 2005
Worse than expected June referrals only got to Nov 14th , 2005
Aug log in dates through Dec 3 rd 2005
Worse than expected Aug referrals only got to Nov, 21st, 2005
Sept log in dates through Dec 21st 2006
Worse than expected Sept only got to Nov 25th, 2005
Oct log in dates through Jan 5th 2006
Nov log in dates through Jan 21th 2006
Dec log in dates through Feb 5th 2006
Jan 2008 log in dates through Feb 28th 2006
Feb 2008 log in dates through March 12th 2006
March 2008 long in dates through March 23rd 2006
We travel 5 weeks later

Aug referrals are in

Aug referrals are in and the CCAA ( china affairs) have given out children for those that were logged in from Nov. 15th 2005 to Nov 21st. 2005. As most of you know we were logged in the China on March 22, 2006. THis batch of referrals brings us a little closer to our date. Another batch with 7 days of referrals.

The CCAA has finished the review of the adoption application documents registered with our office before June 30, 2006. The CCAA has finished the placement of children for the families whose adoption application documents were registered with our office before November 21, 2005.

Friday, July 6, 2007

July Referrals are in

July referrals are mailed out and China Affairs CCAA gave out referrals through Nov 14th, 2005. Only 7 days of referrals again.

The CCAA has finished the review of the adoption application documents registered with our office before May 31, 2006. The CCAA has finished the placement of children for the families whose adoption application documents were registered with our office before November 14, 2005.

Monday, June 11, 2007

Referrals are in for June

THis is another sad month for referrals . CCAA china affairs only gave referrals for 6 days. Good news is that we are 6 days closier to our referral. If you are wondering what a referral means or what the information is for please read in our posts " referrals" Located in the right hand side of the site. For more information please read "Why is it taking so long to get Makayla" .

Has been completed on March 31, 2006 audited admissibility of adoption documents. Matching has been completed on November 7, 2005 admissibility of the adoption application documents.

May referrals are in

Referrals for May are in and finally they are into november.

目前已审核完成2006年3月31日前受理的收养申请文件。Has been completed on March 31, 2006 audited admissibility of adoption documents. 目前已选配完成2005年11月1日前受理的收养申请文件。Matching has been completed on November 1, 2005 adoption of the admissibility of the documents.

It looks like they did 5 days of referrals this month. Lots better than 2 days of referrals ladt month. Still the program is slow.

starting March 5th people started getting referrals. Here is the information that I received.

The CCAA has finished the review of the adoption application documents registered with our office before March 31, 2006. The CCAA has finished the placement of children for the families whose adoption application documents were registered with our office before October 24, 2005.

So this month they only gave referrals out to 11 days. Probley because to the Chinese New YEar. SO I hope that next month will be a big referral days.







On Feb 1st people started recieving there referrals for this month. Of course this does not affect us, except for the fact that now we are closer for us to get our referral. Referrals were given out for 16 days of log in dates From Sept 29th to Oct 13th 2005. Just to remind everyone our log in date is March 22, 2006. If you have any questions about how referrals are given out please read our link named "Why is it taking so long to get Makayla". Plus we also got information that our documents were reviewed and that we out of the review room. In the review room they go over or documents and if there is something missing they will ask for more information. They can also Deny us for any reason. We however we not asked for more information and that we are 100% for sure that we are now getting a child, not that we thought we would not pass the qualifications.

The CCAA has finished the review of the adoption application documents registered with our office before March 22, 2006. The CCAA has finished the placement of children for the families whose adoption application documents were registered with our office before October 13, 2005.

Why is it taking so long to get Makayla

Several people has asked me why it is taking so long to get Makayla. We'll there are several reasons we were told. When we first started the adoption process in 2005, we started paperwork to go through the Russia program, then changed to the China program. We started the paperwork and background checks . Our paperwork was sent over to China on Feb 24, 2006. Our time line ( or waiting period) starts from the day the China logs us in which was March 22, 2006. When we first started the program the waiting period for a referral ( a child that China picks out for us) was approx 7 months and then we would travel to pick her up and finalize the adoption was approx. two months later, which would of given us a referral in Dec 2006 and travel time of Feb 2007. After our paperwork was logged in we were told that the referrals were taking about 9 months and travel 2 months later. Then in September 2006 we were told that the wait was getting to be 12 months for a Referral. Now it is 15-16 months for a referral, why the longer referral time you ask?????
We have been told there are several reasons for the longer wait. This is not all from our adoption agency but several different online groups and adoption related information web sites. One reason is they did an investigation into the China adoptions for black market babies. People selling babies to orphanages for money. The investigation was found to be false and that it delayed the referral of babies during the investigation. However I don't know how reliable this rumor is. Then we heard that in 2005 there were twice as many people applied for a child then in 2004 and there were not enough paper ready children available to keep up with the demand. I can say that this rumor has been said several times so I can not help but believe it. Then there was a rumor that China was in the process of implementing new rules for adopting children and that this also a reason for delayed referrals. China did release in Dec 2006 new rules for adopting children, but because our paperwork was already in China before the rule change that Don and I are grandfathered into the old rules. So the rumor about the referrals being delayed because of the new rules may or may not be true.
Once you are logged into China you get a date which ours is March 22, 2006. Everyone gets a log in date and referrals come to first come first serve basics. So everyone that has a log in date before us will receive a referral before us. When I speak of a referral I am talking about a child that China picks out for us. The referral contains pictures and background information if any on a child along with updates on weight, size, age and medical background if any.
In 2003 and 2004 referrals came once a month and there was enough referrals to get though a month of log in dates. starting in late 2005 referrals still came once a month but they were only giving out referrals for approx. 2 weeks of log in dates at a time. So they were taking two months of referrals to get through one month of log in dates. Currently as of 7/06/07 they have given out referrals through Nov 14th 2005. We were logged into China on March 22, 2006. So we still have 4 months of referrals before we get ours. If they stay at the same pace as they were in 2006, we are still looking at 9 more months before we get a referral. However there is rumors out there that are saying that the amount of people logged in to China starts to decline in late November 2005 through Feb 2006, so they might speed up and get more than two weeks of Referrals in each month. Only time will tell. If China goes back to giving referrals out for a whole month we are only looking at only 5 more months to a referral. If you have any questions about this please post a message. If you would a update on where China is on referrals please read the post Referrals on the main website page. Plus there is also a post for my predictions on referrals.

May referrals are in

Referrals for May are in and finally they are into november.

目前已审核完成2006年3月31日前受理的收养申请文件。Has been completed on March 31, 2006 audited admissibility of adoption documents. 目前已选配完成2005年11月1日前受理的收养申请文件。Matching has been completed on November 1, 2005 adoption of the admissibility of the documents.

It looks like they did 5 days of referrals this month. Lots better than 2 days of referrals ladt month. Still the program is slow.

April Referrals

Sorry I have not posted anything for awhile, things have been pretty busy with the flu and Donald's dad and Easter . Time just goes too fast. Here's the update on April referrals. The CCAA ( china Affairs) gave out referrals this month starting on the 6th of April. They only gave out referrals Through Oct 25-26 , 2005.. Yes two days. However there were several people that did not receive referrals last month that got them this month for earlier dates in October.

So looking at my predictions on referrals:

Good case scenario
April Log in dates through Nov 13 th , 2005
Bad case scenario
April log in dates through Nov 7 th , 2005.

I hope that the next batch will be bigger.

To refresh any one on Referrals and What they mean please refer to the post section in the link Called " Why is it taking so long to get Makayla" It will explain what this information means. Thanks

Update on Les

Today Les came home from the hospital and is doing much much better. We got him home and right away he was working on his breathing. He still has not smoked and Karey quit as we'll . Now Don and I have to set up a date and quit ourselves. Tomorrow we are going home. So the only updates we can give is through the telephone. We will Still give you updates on the Internet when we find out more after we get home.

Update on Les ( third Day after Surgery)

Monday April 3rd. Les called early in the morning and told Karey that he was informed that he could leave the hospital. So we drove to pick him up , and to me he was smiling but his color was pail. We walked him down to the waiting area and Don and Scott went to get the trucks while Karey and I and Les waited for them. I had just taken a picture of him sitting in the chair while Karey was watching for the boys and I put the camera in my bag and looked up at Les and was passed out. I shook him and he came to , and I asked if he was ok and he said yes . I started to get Karey when Les passed out again, Karey noticed that something was wrong and she ran over and and his eyes was rolled back. I ran to get help while Karey tried to get Les to respond. When I came back about 30 sec. later Les had his head up and was telling Karey that he was fine he just wanted to go home. About 2 mins later the waiting area was filled with hospital personal to help. They took this blood pressure and it was 80. No bottom number. So they put Les on a cart and took him into the emergency dept. Once in the emergency Dept they determined that he was given to much blood pressure medicine, but wanted to stay the night so they could monitor him more and run more tests to make sure that everything was ok. When Les was entered into Emergency dept. they give everyone a fake name to go by in case of ( Rape , murder or shootings) So Les's new hospital name was " Cambodia Stat". We were told that if all the tests came back good that he could get out of the hospital on Tuesday (tomorrow ) . The Pictue is of Les right before he passed out.

Update on Les ( Second day after surgery)

Today Les was up and walking around more and his draining tube was taken out and his pain was not as much. His bandage was taken off of his chest where they cut to work on his heart. Sorry about the pictures being sideways, I tried all kinds of things to get them upright but nothing worked, I will have to make a mental note to myself to only take pictures upright on the camera.
As you can tell Les was in very good spirits and feeling much better.